Zend Optimizer for Php 5.3.0

[1b1b1b1b1]

I don't understand why people are deploying products dependent on the absolute bleeding edge- I've run into clients whose hosts still don't have PHP 5.0 at all. I'm writing code now with 5.2.x in mind, but I still run into and expect problems with some clients' hosting environments. I can only apply so much pressure to convince them to change their infrastructure without losing them as a client. When targeting a particular version of PHP you really have to keep in mind the entire software stack- if you depend on Zend Guard/Optimizer supporting something, then don't target versions it doesn't support until the stack is ready. Stack aside, consider your possible clients and remember there -are- PHP 4 only hosts still out there that clients are stuck with- this doesn't mean only code for PHP4- but it just means keep in mind, while you as a programmer may like some of the things 5.3 has to offer, it's going to take a year or two for hosts to adopt it unless there's a major security issue. Even Godaddy is still running something like 5.2.8.

No, if you will keep developing for PHP 4, they will have no reason to upgrade. It's like coding for IE6, no point to do that anymore.

[btrotter]

No, if you will keep developing for PHP 4, they will have no reason to upgrade. It's like coding for IE6, no point to do that anymore.

Right- I've started pushing people to new hosts where I can. That wasn't really my point- just that you need to be aware top to bottom of what your requirements are and if they depend on components like Zend Optimizer that aren't available above some PHP version, you shouldn't target above that level. Just like I can't really target above PHP 5.2.8 because godaddy (which several clients use) only uses 5.2.8 and even if they did, ZendOptimizer doesn't. I just don't see what the big deal is? There's no feature in 5.3 I can't live without.

[1b1b1b1b1]

No, if you will keep developing for PHP 4, they will have no reason to upgrade. It's like coding for IE6, no point to do that anymore.

Right- I've started pushing people to new hosts where I can. That wasn't really my point- just that you need to be aware top to bottom of what your requirements are and if they depend on components like Zend Optimizer that aren't available above some PHP version, you shouldn't target above that level. Just like I can't really target above PHP 5.2.8 because godaddy (which several clients use) only uses 5.2.8 and even if they did, ZendOptimizer doesn't. I just don't see what the big deal is? There's no feature in 5.3 I can't live without.

namespaces and 20-30% performance increase is enough for me to upgrade asap.

[joomx]

I don't understand why people are deploying products dependent on the absolute bleeding edge- I've run into clients whose hosts still don't have PHP 5.0 at all. I'm writing code now with 5.2.x in mind, but I still run into and expect problems with some clients' hosting environments. ...

And I cannot understand why providers/hoster are offering/using php 4.x.
Can only be that they do not understand their job and thinking that they can sell everything to people which do not understand which environemt should be good.
Poor customers!

And - finally - it is also in your reponsibility to point your customers into the right direction (and to another provider)!

[btrotter]

I don't understand why people are deploying products dependent on the absolute bleeding edge- I've run into clients whose hosts still don't have PHP 5.0 at all. I'm writing code now with 5.2.x in mind, but I still run into and expect problems with some clients' hosting environments. ...

And I cannot understand why providers/hoster are offering/using php 4.x.
Can only be that they do not understand their job and thinking that they can sell everything to people which do not understand which environemt should be good.
Poor customers!

definitely- it drives me nuts and puts us in a bad spot when the project manager only asks if the clients platform supports PHP and doesn't remember to ask which version or assumes 5- sells the product and I get the call to develop their customizations, and install time comes and whoops PHP 4!

PHP 4 is the bane of my programming existence! The project manager learned pretty quickly, but we had two major mess ups due to hosting environments and inadequate/inept pre-sales interviewing.

And - finally - it is also in your reponsibility to point your customers into the right direction (and to another provider)!

As mentioned, I'm targeting 5.2.8 these days as that's our common denominator (5.2.9 is the max on windows for zend optimizer support and 5.2.8 is godaddys level for linux). We're pretty much telling clients straight out anymore we won't/don't/can't support PHP4 unless its a new product/development.

[totalhostsolution]

So it's almost the end of the year and still no release... This sucks =(

[btrotter]

Since Zend Server 5 supports PHP 5.3.0, I'm guessing there will be a coinciding Zend Optimizer release and perhaps a Zend Guard maintenance release. I don't get the feeling that the different groups at Zend are as connected as they could/should be, and this will likely be a big release in terms of organization requirements. It's too bad they aren't making their stated goal of by the end of the year, but that's the way these things go.

Zend Server will probably be out in the first month of 2010, but likely not immediately.

*Zend Server 5* is coming soon; while you shouldn’t plan on it for Christmas, stay tuned early in the new year. Better idea for your Christmas or other holiday season: give the beta release of Zend Server 5 a test drive!
December 22 at 4:55pm

EDIT: other official posts now saying Q1- so I guess that means any time before, what, april?

[1b1b1b1b1]

Time to bump this topic, hoping for this month release.

[ssieg]

Any news on this?

[reggionh]

I'm confused. I downloaded Zend Server CE that says it has "Zend Optimizer+" built-in. Are Optimizer+ and Optimizer different thing ? because my Zend Guard encoded components won't run saying "Zend Optimizer is not installed".
and the server i set up is with 5.3.0, meaning I can't get it to work with Zend Optimizer ?
could somebody explain please :(